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How Racism Mutates

A Conversation with Deborah Archer

As a civil rights lawyer, NYU professor, and President of the ACLU, Deborah Archer works to overcome the systemic injustices in our society every day. Chanda and Deborah connected to talk about how racism affects all aspects of life, the navigational skills you learn as a Black woman, and how the law struggles to keep up with the evolution of racism.

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Deborah Archer

Elected in 2021 as the eighth President of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Deborah Archer is the first person of color to lead America’s premiere civil rights and civil liberties organization in its over 100-year history. A leading civil rights and civil liberties advocate, civil rights lawyer, professor, writer and commentator, Deborah challenges audiences to confront America’s legacy of racism and to understand how systemic racism impacts all aspects of American life, from transportation to education to housing to economic opportunity to criminal law.

Deborah is a Professor of Clinical Law at the NYU School of Law. A graduate of Smith College and Yale Law School, Deborah is also faculty director of the Law School’s Center on Race, Inequality, and the Law. She was previously an attorney with the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, the ACLU and the international law firm Simpson Thacher & Bartlett, and on two separate occasions chaired the New York City Civilian Complaint Review Board, the nation’s oldest and largest police oversight agency. Her articles have appeared in leading law journals. She regularly appears in print and on television to comment on critical political and policy issues.

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